299: [Paula Sima] Breaking the Silence: Conversations on Mental Health
In this episode of About That Wallet, host Anthony Weaver welcomes the vibrant Paula Sima, a passionate podcaster and mental health advocate. Together, they dive into the importance of discussing mental health within families, particularly in the context of the Sandwich Generation, who often juggle the emotional needs of both their parents and children.
Paula shares her personal journey with depression and the challenges she faced in opening up about her struggles, emphasizing that mental health issues can affect anyone, regardless of their outward appearance. She discusses the critical conversations that need to happen between parents and children, breaking the stigma surrounding mental health and encouraging listeners to support one another.
Listeners will gain insights into the value of community, the importance of self-reflection, and the necessity of having honest discussions about mental health. Paula also highlights her experiences at various podcasting events and how they have shaped her journey, including her transition into comedy and the connections she has made along the way.
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(00:00) Welcome and Introduction
(02:30) Paula's Journey with Mental Health
(10:15) The Importance of Family Conversations
(18:00) Breaking the Stigma Around Mental Health
(25:45) Community Support and Connection
(32:30) Transitioning into Comedy
(40:00) Final Thoughts and Resources
(48:15) How to Connect with Paula
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Episode 299
Transcript
>> Paula Sima: But raising me. Me and him were invited
Speaker:to another podcast together as a father daughter duo
Speaker:to talk about relationship and depression and
Speaker:even the fact that my dad also came out to me. I was like,
Speaker:I also deal with depression. And I go, so
Speaker:it was like, uh. And these are conversations you need to know. Like,
Speaker:our parents also have mental health struggles, but we
Speaker:look at our parents like heroes. They can't do anything, but
Speaker:we need to also be there for them in their mental
Speaker:struggles, just as they need to be there for us. Have
Speaker:those conversations with your people. You never know who's
Speaker:true.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Welcome back, everybody, to another exciting show of the
Speaker:about that Water podcast. I'm your host, Anthony
Speaker:Weaver, where we help the sandwich generation
Speaker:build strong financial habits. One of the people that I
Speaker:have on is somebody that's so energetic,
Speaker:has always a great smile, and
Speaker:has actually welcomed me into the podcast community.
Speaker:And I want to thank her so much, um, by
Speaker:bringing her on, um, and actually share her energy with
Speaker:you all. And her name is Paula Sema. How you doing today,
Speaker:Paula?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Good. Thank you so much for having
Speaker:me. You can't believe
Speaker:it. When you asked me to. To.
Speaker:To be on your podcast was like, the highlight
Speaker:of my January. So technically, you're the first
Speaker:person I'm guesting in on
Speaker:2025, and I plan to be very picky on the
Speaker:podcast. I got to this year because I'm taking back
Speaker:seat on podcasting, so this is exciting
Speaker:for me, fresh out
Speaker:of recovery.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. Because we were supposed to record before, but, you know, you're under
Speaker:the weather. Actually, it's coming from. Was,
Speaker:uh, what? Podfast, I believe.
Speaker:Oh, yeah.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Ah. Um, kids, uh,
Speaker:grown ups, kids. Whoever is listening to this,
Speaker:uh, sometimes listen to your body. You're not as. As
Speaker:young as you used to think, so doing things you
Speaker:used to do four years ago in a conference might not
Speaker:work four years later.
Speaker:That's what happens when you overdo it and you come back
Speaker:home and you get sick. And very sick.
Speaker:I have been in bed for
Speaker:almost two weeks now.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Jeez. And do you ever figure out, like, what.
Speaker:What it was?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Well, um, first
Speaker:thing, which, uh, is funny, you will find funny
Speaker:what happened when I was with you in podcast movement.
Speaker:I don't know. This thing about me falling, um,
Speaker:should be examined.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yes.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: So, of course, I did fall twice at
Speaker:Potfest, and I was with the same
Speaker:teams. Why I say these every
Speaker:time I'm with them. Shout out to the
Speaker:mopad boys. I love y' all. But,
Speaker:um, so I fell down twice, but
Speaker:I'm a Person who never feels pain in the moment. Like, you
Speaker:remember when I fell at focus movement, the first thing I was like, can
Speaker:I get a beer? Like, I was just like, let's get back
Speaker:to the. To the mood. Like, no hospitals, no
Speaker:nothing. I hate hospitals. I hate unless I really
Speaker:feel it. And I normally don't feel it until
Speaker:I stop the movement because I'm always on the
Speaker:go. You come back home and you're
Speaker:like. And then I'm seeing all
Speaker:these bruises, and my toes were literally,
Speaker:like, popped up. Because apparently I
Speaker:pinch my. Like,
Speaker:looking at my body. Like, I swear if somebody had seen me,
Speaker:they would think maybe I was, uh,
Speaker:abused. You know, something like, you know, and
Speaker:people have marks in the m and they're being abused
Speaker:and hiding. Like, my body was
Speaker:filled with marks, which I was like, what the hell
Speaker:is going on? And then, um,
Speaker:also drinking beer from morning to
Speaker:evening is not healthy if you're not drinking water
Speaker:in between. So I said,
Speaker:I will pay anybody who has a picture of me about first
Speaker:without holding a beer. And again, I blame the
Speaker:moped boys for constantly having beers for me.
Speaker:So there was that. I was drinking beer
Speaker:constantly, and I wasn't eating
Speaker:as much, even though I had access to as much food.
Speaker:I would literally go get a plate and bring it to my friends, like,
Speaker:hey, look what we have. And they're like, where did you get this? I'm like, don't
Speaker:worry where I got it. Eat right.
Speaker:But I am not eating myself.
Speaker:And I wasn't drinking enough water. So it was
Speaker:hydration. It was the sinus infection again.
Speaker:Freuda was kind of cold, and we
Speaker:just had the snow. We normally don't.
Speaker:Freuda was like, the weather was we.
Speaker:As I think, jumping into around
Speaker:that time with this weather conditions. I got a
Speaker:sinus infection. Then I had indigestion.
Speaker:It's just like. And, uh,
Speaker:emotion. My body was really tired.
Speaker:Again, if you have met me at a conference, you know
Speaker:how I am at a conference. So the body
Speaker:was really exhausted until right now. My body
Speaker:is still trying to find back the energy,
Speaker:but the fluid is gone. The cough is going. You can tell
Speaker:because the last voice note I sent you, I was literally coughing
Speaker:more than. So I'm healing, but my
Speaker:energy is still getting slowly. But it
Speaker:was all those things. That's why I say
Speaker:you. Just because you look young or you feel young doesn't
Speaker:mean you're as young as you were before. Ah. And
Speaker:I looked at Joe and Mike, and I was like, bruh.
Speaker:Because I met them at PodFest in
Speaker:2022. And we've been doing this
Speaker:since then. I'm like, bruh, we can't keep doing this.
Speaker:Because even the next morning,
Speaker:Joe was exhausted. By the way, it was
Speaker:also like Joe's birthday and Chase's birthday.
Speaker:So it like, and, and this is my last
Speaker:podfest because next year won't be a podfest.
Speaker:So I was trying to do everything, like, because
Speaker:to, to increase for next year that I
Speaker:won't be here, uh, which may overdo it. So,
Speaker:uh, it was just, yeah, a lot. I was doing a
Speaker:lot.
Speaker:I, I would be the first person to say I was doing a
Speaker:lot. But, um, in.
Speaker:In the me being me, at least, um,
Speaker:the people who were there enjoyed it. And
Speaker:hey, uh, I got promoted from mayor to governor
Speaker:of podfest. I guess I was doing something right
Speaker:while drinking in.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Well, it was in a long time coming because if you think
Speaker:about it, you're the first person I saw on
Speaker:podfest, um, promotion videos.
Speaker:And I was like, who was this person with all this energy and
Speaker:there's like, from Tanzania. And I was like, okay, well,
Speaker:maybe I'll see her in passing. Okay, so go to
Speaker:fincon. And I was like, okay, I've seen her
Speaker:face before, um, but didn't
Speaker:say anything first.
Speaker:Well, we met in person and Podcast movement. Yeah,
Speaker:but I've seen you in passing at other events,
Speaker:at another event, I believe. And um,
Speaker:it was my first time actually meeting you in
Speaker:podcast movement. Um, because it was like,
Speaker:you know, you know, certain people, like, you just kind of see them like,
Speaker:okay, well this is maybe a one time deal.
Speaker:They're gonna go hang out with the people that they know. And
Speaker:you know, it's very, it's like a family reunion when
Speaker:you go to these events. And that's the reason why I like the in person
Speaker:events, uh, more so than
Speaker:like how we have these conversations, but we also support each other
Speaker:virtually. But when it comes to in person, it's
Speaker:almost like, hey, I've known you for 20
Speaker:years almost, it feels like, and it's such a great thing to
Speaker:have.
Speaker:Um, and with that being said, because it's
Speaker:like you, your
Speaker:podcast is talking about, you know, with
Speaker:your personal battle with depression
Speaker:and having those moments and seeing you're
Speaker:happy actually helps a
Speaker:lot more than what you think. I'm not sure if anybody ever
Speaker:told you that yet.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Which I like that. But, uh, a lot of people come
Speaker:to me and be like, are you sure you depressed?
Speaker:Because I am constantly.
Speaker:We all, you know, um, in the beginning,
Speaker:I Used to not think I was depressed as well because of the person
Speaker:I am. I'm like, I'm constantly happy and
Speaker:trying to make people happy and cheerful. How can I be
Speaker:depressed? So I understand where they're coming from with
Speaker:it. Right? But. But um, that's just
Speaker:me and the energy. And I can be like
Speaker:that in a room of people and still be dying inside.
Speaker:Ah. And that's why I put that out.
Speaker:Because I want that back to fill
Speaker:that void inside of me. And that's uh, why when I go
Speaker:to these events, whether I know somebody or not,
Speaker:I give them the full me that
Speaker:I give to the people of non 20
Speaker:plus. I mean 5, 6 plus years
Speaker:to a new person. People, uh, will tell you
Speaker:I, I will hang out with people and people, uh, and people will come and be
Speaker:like, huh. I just
Speaker:matter. I'm like. Because that's who I am. Like, uh,
Speaker:I don't like small talks. So when I meet
Speaker:people, I just go straight to that. And I like making people
Speaker:be very uncomfortable because I feel like when you
Speaker:make people uncomfortable, they get comfortable very easily.
Speaker:So I, I go straight with a
Speaker:perverted or weird question,
Speaker:straight on into that digging in and then either it
Speaker:will be like, damn, did she really say that? Wait, did you
Speaker:really? Oh, you'll be like, oh my God, she m my kind of person. Because she
Speaker:goes straight in. And it helps you fit. Because
Speaker:if you get offended on something I
Speaker:literally ask or anything that shows me, you know, my
Speaker:person and that makes me not waste my time with you
Speaker:because I don't like people get offended easily
Speaker:because I offend. And my friends used to tell me, paula, just
Speaker:because you say no offense and then you continue to offend us
Speaker:doesn't mean I'm, um, like I'm m to
Speaker:offend you, but I'm also like the.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: You got to get it off your chest, you know. And sometimes it's
Speaker:just like, you know, you have that thought and be like, um, hm.
Speaker:I. I want to say this, but I don't want to say this, but
Speaker:I feel like I'mma hurt my. I'mma feel bad for not
Speaker:saying this at this moment, you know.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: And I learned that I rather say it and get it
Speaker:out. And we be. We be. And
Speaker:I am very sarcastic. So you
Speaker:really have to. That's why sometimes, that's why I love this
Speaker:in person events because online you can't really reach
Speaker:somebody's sarcasm if you don't know them,
Speaker:you know. And, um, I have this friend called
Speaker:Junaid. I don't know if you know him. Junaid.
Speaker:Junaid is the perfect person if you're trying to get into
Speaker:home studio videos. Yeah. He helps
Speaker:them build studios. He has a podcast called Hacks
Speaker:and Obies over 500 episodes.
Speaker:He has that go box where it's like a go studio. You
Speaker:open the go box and it comes with everything they're about to.
Speaker:They sell those. But, um, Junaid
Speaker:has the most driest
Speaker:sarcastic humor ever. If you
Speaker:read his comments on Facebook, you would think
Speaker:this person is writing from hate or anything
Speaker:because you don't know him. But then when you sit with him
Speaker:and you actually get to know him, and then when you read his,
Speaker:you're like, oh, here we go. Like, you know, you get it because
Speaker:you have been in his presence and you have actually
Speaker:felt his energy and seemed like that's just how
Speaker:he is. But sometimes online, when you read it and
Speaker:everybody reads things in a different
Speaker:perspective, right? In a different, um,
Speaker:attitude. I might write it in a funny way, but somebody
Speaker:coming from wherever, they might read it in a. Oh,
Speaker:that was offensive. But I was just being
Speaker:funny or sarcastic. So that's why this imperson
Speaker:said, I like going there because people get to know me and
Speaker:they're like, oh, that's just Paula. Like, these days when people hear
Speaker:things or even when somebody goes and say that that
Speaker:short girl just came and said like, oh, that's just
Speaker:Paula. She didn't mean it that way. Trust me, if she
Speaker:in a bad way, you would know. And I like that
Speaker:because people get to sense who you really are,
Speaker:that nothing gets taken, um, out of
Speaker:context. And I am that person. Like, I am very
Speaker:sarcastic and I say shit and I'm
Speaker:very perverted. Like, four years going on podfest where
Speaker:my badges always have perverted the end. So people
Speaker:can be aware. Like, you know, I'm, um, the person
Speaker:who. But I, I, I, I do,
Speaker:um, what's
Speaker:the thing called when people have sexual
Speaker:harassment and they say, uh,
Speaker:consent. I don't before I
Speaker:sometimes get into people's personal spaces and,
Speaker:um, you know, so. Because I don't want
Speaker:to be Didi me, me too. Whatever all that
Speaker:crap going on. But I am all those things.
Speaker:Uh, and that's why I think I love podfest because
Speaker:it's a place where as really
Speaker:embraced and welcome me. Like, all of me.
Speaker:My loud house. I don't know any
Speaker:conference that allows me to drink from morning to
Speaker:evening to and to still and they
Speaker:still trust me to emcee and,
Speaker:and host first timers and Second
Speaker:timers, um, more part
Speaker:to allow me to be
Speaker:their ambassador and spokesman for
Speaker:them with how they know, but because deep down they
Speaker:know who I really am and I get
Speaker:the job done regardless. Like, I am a person who
Speaker:loves people, who loves connecting, who loves
Speaker:networking. Like, I love bringing people together.
Speaker:So it always comes in a good place. How
Speaker:it ends up, that's all other different things. So. And
Speaker:that's why I tell people, if you deal with drunk polar, go deal
Speaker:with drunk polar. Don't bring drunk polar in to. So
Speaker:cuz I don't know.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, that is true. I can attest
Speaker:it out. He was like, oh, uh, I don't know what
Speaker:you're talking about. That was yesterday, cuz when you fell, you
Speaker:was like, I totally, I totally forgot about like the next day. I was like, do
Speaker:you. She was like, no, I don't know what to talk about.
Speaker:But we got footage. So.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I came back for two weeks.
Speaker:He was constantly texting me, yo, are you
Speaker:good? Concussion, Are you good? I'm like,
Speaker:bro. Ah. And
Speaker:that's the thing. They. They love me so much that sometimes
Speaker:I feel like smitten by them. But
Speaker:it comes from a good place. But I'm, um,
Speaker:not personal. Like, and that's why I don't even,
Speaker:um, hold grudges or anything.
Speaker:Like, once I let it out,
Speaker:that's it. You can be mad at me, but I'm not mad.
Speaker:Like, you're wasting your anger. I'm still moving,
Speaker:baby. As long as that's why I like, take
Speaker:putting it out there. And that's why sometimes when I have
Speaker:to say for people with me, Facebook, you have seen.
Speaker:I've had moments where I literally go off on.
Speaker:And once I've already done that, like now, now
Speaker:it's out there. I'm good. What's next?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Right, Exactly.
Speaker:So, um, because mental health has been one of
Speaker:your main things, why mental health
Speaker:over any other topic that you love to talk about.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: About. Well, because one, I'm a
Speaker:depressed speech, and um,
Speaker:two, I am Tanzanian, and in
Speaker:Tanzania, we really don't
Speaker:talk about mental health. And, um, not
Speaker:only Tanzania, I was also around people who,
Speaker:when I was
Speaker:feeling certain way and I would say and I'd get
Speaker:the same, which was, this will
Speaker:pass. Oh, at least you have a roof over your
Speaker:head. Oh, you're gonna be fine. Uh,
Speaker:I get it. I am blessed and I'm happy that I have
Speaker:this because there are people out there worse. But
Speaker:my feelings still do matter. And I feel like
Speaker:some people don't Speak up because
Speaker:of that, because of people. Keep on
Speaker:having this, or you should be grateful you have this,
Speaker:or you should. You know, tomorrow is gonna be
Speaker:a better day. Oh, blah, blah, blah. No,
Speaker:right now, this is what I'm dealing with. I want to know. So I
Speaker:wanted people out there to know they're not alone.
Speaker:And also, again, it was
Speaker:the misconstructions on mental. On
Speaker:depression. Like, when I came out with depression, a lot
Speaker:of people came to me saying they would never thought I
Speaker:had depression because of how I handled myself or
Speaker:I looked. And that's when I felt like it was important.
Speaker:Because people assume that you
Speaker:have to be in a dark room and sad
Speaker:or dressed up in crunchy clothes to be
Speaker:depressed. Like, there's no look on depressed. People can be
Speaker:walking sanely and happy and
Speaker:still depressed. I mean, look at Avicii. Ah, who
Speaker:killed himself. It was rich, Emani, that,
Speaker:um, Katie whoever. Like all these billionaire
Speaker:rich people, actors, they have everything as well,
Speaker:but they still ended up killing themselves because of their
Speaker:battles with mental health. So you can have everything
Speaker:and still be sad because it's a mental thing. It's
Speaker:not what you have or what you don't have. It's
Speaker:the feelings in your mind that you're battling with.
Speaker:And that's where it was. And people needed to understand
Speaker:that. Um,
Speaker:I lost my thought, but there was something I was going to share.
Speaker:Yeah. Um, there's this saying
Speaker:where. And I used to be those people
Speaker:who used to think surrounding yourself with people would
Speaker:make you happy. Right? And then until you
Speaker:realize you're in a room full of people, whether you love or
Speaker:hate them, but room full of people, and you're
Speaker:still lonely as m.
Speaker:That shit is real. And that's why when people used to tell
Speaker:me when I started being my own best friend and learning to. Because
Speaker:I used to be a, uh, people pleaser. I wanted people constantly around
Speaker:me, so I would do whatever it takes to. To have
Speaker:people around me. And I was wasting my
Speaker:energy, my time, my money, because
Speaker:they really didn't want to be around me. I was just buying
Speaker:their presence, you know? And I
Speaker:realized it wasn't filling me. And I had to learn
Speaker:how to be happy by myself. I had to learn how
Speaker:to be doing things by myself, to be
Speaker:okay. To be alone, which most
Speaker:people fear. And my brother came to me and told me,
Speaker:paula, uh, these days, you're so alone, make sure you're not lonely.
Speaker:I'm like, you know, you can be alone and not lonely, and you can be with
Speaker:People and lonely. And those are things people need
Speaker:to understand. So
Speaker:if that answers the question on why mental health,
Speaker:that. That was why. Plus, I,
Speaker:at the time when my podcast started, I was
Speaker:battling my own mental. My
Speaker:own very fucked up depression, which got.
Speaker:I don't know if without, uh,
Speaker:podcasting, I would have been able to get myself out of
Speaker:it, because it was Covid going on.
Speaker:And back in my country, um,
Speaker:our president wasn't taking Covid serious. My dad
Speaker:had health issues. And to top
Speaker:off worrying about COVID and is older,
Speaker:you know, so that was depressing
Speaker:me. And then here, ah, there was Black Lives Matter, which
Speaker:was crazy. Then there was Asian
Speaker:Lives Matter. I lived in Asia for five years.
Speaker:I have friends I consider family who are Asian.
Speaker:So that was also. And then I was dealing
Speaker:with my own breakup, which I kind of didn't want to deal
Speaker:with. But when the world shut down, I
Speaker:had nothing but time to deal with. I'm overthink. I
Speaker:live in my head. So it was a lot of things
Speaker:going on, and I was drinking way too much.
Speaker:Now I'm a drinker and I enjoy drinking, but there's a
Speaker:difference. When you're drinking to have fun and drinking to numb
Speaker:the pain. When you're numbing the pain, you're just
Speaker:constantly drinking with no stopping because you don't want to
Speaker:stop. So that became
Speaker:worse. So,
Speaker:um, I finally dealt
Speaker:with my breakup, and I went on Twitter,
Speaker:and Twitter was Twitter. And I started talking shit.
Speaker:And somebody was like, you should start a podcast. And I
Speaker:sat down and I asked myself,
Speaker:if I did start a podcast, what would I want it
Speaker:to be? And I was like, what am I going through right now?
Speaker:I need to have this conversation. So my
Speaker:first episode was me opening up with all the
Speaker:shit that I was dealing with. And trust me,
Speaker:recording it was easy. But releasing it to the world,
Speaker:that was a whole other thing. Uh, I was
Speaker:fearing of judgment again. I'm, um, African. I come
Speaker:from Tanzania. There's all these things of, oh, you're
Speaker:putting too much of the business out there. People don't need to
Speaker:know this. You know, all that.
Speaker:Nobody talks about money, because God forbid you're
Speaker:35 and broken, living paycheck to paycheck,
Speaker:baby, it's a crime.
Speaker:So all those things, and I was letting all of them
Speaker:out, like, you know, opening a Pandora box and
Speaker:just letting it fly. But then the most
Speaker:surprising thing happened is people started reaching out
Speaker:and telling me how they are dealing with the same,
Speaker:how they're grateful I spoken up
Speaker:because they they are going through it. And we
Speaker:started having those conversations and, and
Speaker:that's when I knew, you know, what I needed to create
Speaker:this safe space for people to feel safe, to. To
Speaker:have these conversations because we are
Speaker:shown about their taboo. You can't talk about
Speaker:financials, you can't talk about your mental health, you can't
Speaker:talk about sex. You can't, uh. Who
Speaker:said you can't?
Speaker:How do we get better if we can't have these conversations?
Speaker:How do we hear?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: And it goes back to like, how is
Speaker:society is able to move forward if you're afraid to even talk about
Speaker:it? Because with the movement now is like
Speaker:certain histories you don't talk about now. So like, how do you
Speaker:deal with. Well, you're only going to tell one side of it.
Speaker:Well, what about what was going on around that sub,
Speaker:around that topic?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: You know, if you're not
Speaker:digging through. And that's why I tell people it's the same
Speaker:as. And this is why people are scared about
Speaker:therapy or working, working on
Speaker:themselves because,
Speaker:um, growth or,
Speaker:uh, working on yourself, which is something I'm
Speaker:still battling with and I've been doing.
Speaker:It's a, it's a process because you have to dig.
Speaker:And as soon as you think you're better, uh, you dig into
Speaker:something which opens all these other wounds and you have to
Speaker:go deeper into them and figure them out. And
Speaker:people don't like knowing that, baby, sometimes you are
Speaker:the problem. You know, people want to point
Speaker:fingers. People want to say, it's because of
Speaker:him I am broke. It's because of him. I didn't get
Speaker:this. No, look into yourself.
Speaker:Why are all these people doing that to you?
Speaker:What is your problem? And I had to sit and
Speaker:constantly look. And I realized there's one time I came
Speaker:out and said, I realize I am,
Speaker:um. I used to pride myself in thinking
Speaker:I am a great, A good friend, like a great
Speaker:friend. And I realized I'm not a great friend.
Speaker:I'm a good person, but a great friend.
Speaker:No, I was lying to myself. And people kept asking me
Speaker:about. I'm like, yes, I was doing things, but I was
Speaker:doing things hoping that my friends do them to me as well.
Speaker:That's not being a good friend. You're supposed to just
Speaker:do things. So there were certain things I was finding out. And
Speaker:that's why maybe I was getting mad at certain friendships or
Speaker:certain friendships ended. Because
Speaker:even though there was no that, that condition in me,
Speaker:I was putting those conditions without knowing. And.
Speaker:And it takes digging deeper into why
Speaker:the am I like this to realize certain
Speaker:things. So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: So what helped you find yourself?
Speaker:Like, were there books? Did you journal?
Speaker:Did you go to therapy?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Um, so I, believe it or not, I
Speaker:hate, I hate cell phone books.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I hate self help books. I. And
Speaker:I read, but I read a lot of crime,
Speaker:um, and, um,
Speaker:autobiography books. I learn a lot from
Speaker:autobiographies because I like learning people's
Speaker:journeys. And that's why, even when I
Speaker:pivoted my podcast from mental health to creative
Speaker:journeys and mental struggles, because I want to share
Speaker:people's creative journeys. Because we always assume,
Speaker:oh, somebody just got there, like, I want to be there.
Speaker:But you don't know what they went through to get there.
Speaker:So don't excuse your journey. Don't just think people
Speaker:just went to sleep and woke up and here they were.
Speaker:And you want to be there, but you're not doing the work
Speaker:they did or more than they did to get
Speaker:where you're going. And that's why I love autobiographies.
Speaker:And I've always had this idea of my own autobiography in the
Speaker:future. So it's kind of also like research. But, um,
Speaker:so it's just, um, learning from people's, um,
Speaker:journeys. I read a lot of autobiographies, but there's
Speaker:also this book, um, I forgot, hold
Speaker:on. Pope Francis. Um,
Speaker:it's funny. Uh, I hate Catholic. My
Speaker:parents are Catholic. Thank God I, I didn't grow up,
Speaker:uh, Catholic. But
Speaker:there's this very little book by
Speaker:Pope, uh, Pope. Pope
Speaker:Francis. Um, I'll
Speaker:get the name of it.
Speaker:I, um, don't know why I can't find it right now.
Speaker:He has several books,
Speaker:but there's this specific one and
Speaker:I literally just found it the other day because I was,
Speaker:I was getting interviewed and that was part of
Speaker:the, the question. And I, and I had
Speaker:it in there. But, um,
Speaker:so that book really opened
Speaker:my eyes in a different way because he
Speaker:spoke in a very human
Speaker:way than like
Speaker:leading Christianity or Catholicism or
Speaker:anything. So that, um,
Speaker:helped. But also therapy. I'm, um, a firm
Speaker:believer in therapy. It took me,
Speaker:I went on and off to therapy.
Speaker:And, um, I'm actually thinking
Speaker:right now about going back to therapy. But again, therapy is
Speaker:also exhausting because
Speaker:finding the right fit, it's just like relationship, right?
Speaker:You have to find the right person who gets with
Speaker:you. But also, um, I journal
Speaker:a lot. I do journal a lot. And I'm working on
Speaker:a new book journal coming out.
Speaker:But, um, and
Speaker:one of the biggest thing was
Speaker:accepting that something was wrong with me.
Speaker:And I needed help. And I think once you
Speaker:get there, even if you don't have access to
Speaker:therapy or to books, you will
Speaker:start digging into yourself. I'm, um, a person who
Speaker:literally digs into myself. And
Speaker:um, I don't know if it's healthy or not,
Speaker:but that's why sometimes I don't
Speaker:sleep. I will sit, I will lay at night and I'll
Speaker:be like, why didn't this work out? And then
Speaker:I'll go deep in, okay, I
Speaker:did this, this, this, they did this, this, this.
Speaker:What could have been done better? And
Speaker:then once, uh, I figure that out, I pray, I
Speaker:pray a lot. Um, I have
Speaker:a very on and off relationship with God. Uh,
Speaker:because growing up I was forced into
Speaker:religion, Christianity. You know, you're woken
Speaker:up every Sunday to go to church and you had to go to Sunday
Speaker:school and you had to get communion and you had to
Speaker:all that shit. And then I moved from home
Speaker:and went to college and nobody's there to wake you up on
Speaker:Sundays to force you to church. So I took a backseat.
Speaker:Like God, who on Saturday we are turning up,
Speaker:we are too late. I am waking up on Sunday to go to
Speaker:church. And then when I started
Speaker:battling my depression, I remember, um,
Speaker:me and my mom are not close. I'm more close
Speaker:to my dad. But something told me to call my
Speaker:mom. And I called my mom
Speaker:and I started crying telling her something is
Speaker:wrong with me. And one thing my mom
Speaker:said, she didn't dismiss it, uh, she
Speaker:didn't try to understand it, which I'm grateful.
Speaker:Or she told me was like, Paula, prayer.
Speaker:Pray and pray and pray and God will give you the
Speaker:answers. And funny
Speaker:enough, I started
Speaker:praying and my heart felt less heavier
Speaker:the more I kept on praying, like something
Speaker:is being lifted. So I have that Bible
Speaker:app on my, on uh, my phone.
Speaker:I read, uh, I look for plans
Speaker:that help me with what I'm going through. And they have
Speaker:mental health plans, they have
Speaker:self esteem plans. They have, they have, have all the
Speaker:plans you need and you can read them with a friend.
Speaker:Like send links and share and you and your friends read
Speaker:together and discuss so you can do it by yourself.
Speaker:So that was one of the biggest tool I started with
Speaker:that before even therapy.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Nice. Okay, so try to do it to
Speaker:kind of really know yourself before you actually go in and not
Speaker:waste your money for therapy.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: What are you going to tell them if you haven't really look like
Speaker:anchors? Whether you say or not
Speaker:that one hour is, they're gonna still charge you.
Speaker:So, uh, it's at least. And I
Speaker:tell people, don't waste the money unless you're
Speaker:really sure you wanna work on yourself.
Speaker:And that's why certain people come and say, oh, therapy
Speaker:doesn't work. No, baby, it's not that therapy doesn't
Speaker:work. Did you actually do the work? Because it
Speaker:requires you doing the work. It requires you
Speaker:having those conversations, it requires you looking deep,
Speaker:deep in and doing those exercises and following
Speaker:through. And that's why I had to commit to myself
Speaker:first to do it by myself. And,
Speaker:and all those who say, oh, I have my
Speaker:girlfriends, I don't need therapy, trust me, I know too. But your
Speaker:girlfriends ain't gonna tell you unless your girlfriend is
Speaker:Paula. Because I will tell you the truth. And some of my friends
Speaker:hate me that much because I, I give it to them,
Speaker:uh, as it is, with as
Speaker:much love as I can. But also
Speaker:your friends isn't the same. And that's why you,
Speaker:you need to speak to a stranger because they don't have
Speaker:loyalty to you. They don't care about
Speaker:your past, they don't care about hurting your feelings, they
Speaker:don't care about sugar coating.
Speaker:You need somebody who's gonna give it to you as it
Speaker:is. And that's why start with yourself looking
Speaker:yourself in the mirror. And, and it's funny, I
Speaker:haven't told anybody yet. You get to, to speak.
Speaker:You get to see this first. I' project.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay. Uh, what's
Speaker:that? It's because you got your background.
Speaker:There you go.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Uh, so, um,
Speaker:it's a new project called sh.
Speaker:Come on. Shattered
Speaker:Mirrors. I'm looking at myself and cracks of
Speaker:mirrors breaking up. And
Speaker:last um, year. October, November, I was having a very
Speaker:hard time and I spoke to
Speaker:Shout out to the High Hope Breakfast Club,
Speaker:Walter Dominic and, and
Speaker:Streamyard Chris recording Streamyard Chris.
Speaker:And um, they were helping me figure out
Speaker:what was going on with me. And um,
Speaker:they said something which stuck with me. So,
Speaker:um, I started working on a project where I
Speaker:was literally picking everything
Speaker:that I was dealing with. Like, okay, today I'm
Speaker:feeling this. Then I would record a 20
Speaker:minute episode. Why am I feeling that?
Speaker:What is going on? And then I, and then I write
Speaker:it in a book and then I turned it into a journal and then I
Speaker:did an exercise. So that helped.
Speaker:And that's why I said after going through this, I'm like, now I'm
Speaker:ready to go back to therapy because I know exactly
Speaker:where my pinpoints are and where the help
Speaker:needs. So don't just jump into therapy
Speaker:first. Look within yourself and
Speaker:pray. I think when you pray, it does bring that
Speaker:out of you. You start seeing what
Speaker:needs to be fixed.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: And I think the m. Because you pray,
Speaker:it's like you're doing it in
Speaker:threes. So you're already thinking about it
Speaker:now that you're actually saying it it. And then you're actually
Speaker:listening into it because you're actually bringing it to
Speaker:light of what is actually
Speaker:either a bothering you or you're thinking
Speaker:about and how you actually going to navigate or the
Speaker:logistics of this new feeling or this
Speaker:remapping of your brain for something that
Speaker:isn't, that wasn't there or used to be there, that isn't
Speaker:there anymore. And I think that is really good,
Speaker:um, way to kind of deal with that mental
Speaker:health, ah, process.
Speaker:Um, so I actually have a question of
Speaker:about like, because we are working with the sandwich
Speaker:generation and you
Speaker:know, dealing with your parents, um,
Speaker:having this discussion and letting them know
Speaker:where you are as a person, as an adult,
Speaker:as a young. Well, to them they are, uh, in their eyes, I'm sure
Speaker:they still look at you as a little baby girl. But
Speaker:like, like, how was that conversation with
Speaker:them to kind of say, like, you know what, hey, this is
Speaker:how I feel and I would appreciate you if you treat me this
Speaker:way to set those barriers.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: So, um, I am blessed with
Speaker:incredible parents. Um,
Speaker:my mom is still a typical African mom.
Speaker:Um, but thank God we haven't
Speaker:lived together in 10 plus,
Speaker:not 20 plus years.
Speaker:I haven't been in my mom's prison, so
Speaker:she can tell me. I mean, even if she wanted to
Speaker:whoop me, she couldn't, right?
Speaker:But, um, so the first time when I, uh,
Speaker:when I came out with depression, right, I started,
Speaker:I wanted to start this thing called life with Paula.
Speaker:And um, I remember when I had
Speaker:the conversation with my mom about depression,
Speaker:um, me and my mom really didn't dig
Speaker:deep into it. As I said, she, she didn't try to
Speaker:understand it. She didn't. She just told me to pray.
Speaker:And we have never really sat down and had
Speaker:a conversation again. My
Speaker:mom chooses what she wants to, to be a
Speaker:part of and, and you know, and me and I
Speaker:are not close. So God forbid, if this was my
Speaker:brother, it would have been a whole other thing. She would have probably
Speaker:traveled to the moons to find cure for him.
Speaker:But that's a whole other conversation. But as far as my
Speaker:dad, um, which was a little bit more hard, um,
Speaker:because I'm a government kid, right?
Speaker:Government kid means my family is in the government.
Speaker:So, um, you have to be
Speaker:Kinda very,
Speaker:um,
Speaker:very aware with what you put out there because
Speaker:they take everything and I. And attack you, especially
Speaker:when it's time of political stuff back home.
Speaker:But then again, I haven't been home a long time. And
Speaker:that's why most people wondering why at one point my
Speaker:Facebook name was different, my Instagram. It
Speaker:was because I don't want my,
Speaker:my, uh, shit to interfere with m. The
Speaker:political stuff. Because one thing is
Speaker:for sure, my family knew from a young
Speaker:age that they can never. Since Apollo,
Speaker:I was that rebellious kid with a loud mouth.
Speaker:I am gonna say what I'm gonna say. I grew up a
Speaker:tomboy. So I was not the normal typical guy you put in
Speaker:the kitchen and train her to be a wife
Speaker:or whatever. I was none of that. I was
Speaker:loud. I, I
Speaker:like they knew they, they just had to let me
Speaker:be. But I also
Speaker:am aware that the things I do put
Speaker:out might affect my family
Speaker:since they are in the government. So I tried
Speaker:to be sensitive towards that. So when,
Speaker:when I wanted to start life with Paula, when I
Speaker:first realized about my depression, I did have to have
Speaker:a conversation with my dad because our life
Speaker:with Paula was starting on Instagram.
Speaker:And then we ended up creating a support group
Speaker:on WhatsApp. So I did have a conversation with my dad and
Speaker:I was like, dad, listen, I'm, um, dealing with depression
Speaker:and I feel like the only way for me to heal is to
Speaker:start having these conversations, which means
Speaker:that I will be putting my business out there,
Speaker:which means that it might be used
Speaker:on you guys. And I don't want
Speaker:that, but I also want to do what's
Speaker:best for me. And my dad was
Speaker:do what you gotta do. So I'm grateful for
Speaker:that. He was really very supportive. And the first live
Speaker:I did, he was even on the comments
Speaker:telling me, language, please.
Speaker:Mind you, I learned to be
Speaker:this language from my father.
Speaker:And then now, you know, he gets older, he starts cleaning his
Speaker:act and he's like, oh, you gotta clean your. I'm like, well, you
Speaker:are 20 years ahead of me, so give me time.
Speaker:But, um,
Speaker:it turned out to be very good because then
Speaker:when I did that first live and
Speaker:people started pouring in, the WhatsApp group
Speaker:had like 30 people.
Speaker:And some of them were my friends. One of
Speaker:them was my cousin who was my close friend who I
Speaker:found out almost tried to kill herself. But
Speaker:again, because these are things we don't talk about,
Speaker:the family was hiding it. And hiding it
Speaker:doesn't help because you're not getting her help. You're making her
Speaker:Feel ashamed about something that she
Speaker:didn't have control over instead of actually
Speaker:allowing her to speak on it so she can get
Speaker:better, help and be around people
Speaker:who know how to be with her.
Speaker:So in that group, all these things were coming out
Speaker:and seeing some of my friends dealing with
Speaker:things, and I, I missed it. Like,
Speaker:I, I didn't know that was
Speaker:one of the painfulest things. And
Speaker:I went and I told my dad and my dad was like,
Speaker:well, then keep doing it. You can't stop now.
Speaker:And that support group was
Speaker:like, when I look at all of those people right now, where they
Speaker:are and what they're doing. And one time some of them came to me and they're like,
Speaker:paula, because you started this, you gave us the stre
Speaker:to go on. And it wasn't that
Speaker:we did anything for each other. It was just that we had a
Speaker:safe space for people to, to talk
Speaker:without being told, oh, uh, it's gonna be
Speaker:okay. Oh, at least you have this. Like, people really
Speaker:just listened and checked in. And sometimes people,
Speaker:all people want is just to be listen. I don't
Speaker:want an advice. I don't want. I, uh, just want you to hear
Speaker:me.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Just hear you. Yeah.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah. So, um, I'm grateful that
Speaker:I, I, My dad
Speaker:gave me, um, a go ahead and was like, do what you gotta do.
Speaker:And I'm grateful that my mom really doesn't give a,
Speaker:like that to, to, to tell me no. But
Speaker:trust me, if she does hear things, she doesn't,
Speaker:she's not on my socials, unlike my dad. My dad
Speaker:follows me everywhere sometimes. It's so annoying.
Speaker:But my mom is not on socials and I doubt she
Speaker:listens to my podcast, so. But I feel like if she
Speaker:did hear some of the things, she would
Speaker:be like a proper African man. But
Speaker:my dad is cool. He has even been on my podcast to
Speaker:share about raising me.
Speaker:Me and him were invited to another podcast together as a
Speaker:father, daughter, uh, duo to talk about relationship and
Speaker:depression. And even the fact that my dad also came
Speaker:out to me. I was like, I also deal with depression.
Speaker:And I go, so it was like. And these are
Speaker:conversations you need to know. Like, our
Speaker:parents also have mental health struggles, but we look at
Speaker:our parents like healers. They can't do anything, but
Speaker:we need to also be there for them in their mental
Speaker:struggles, just as they need to be there for us. So have
Speaker:those conversations with your people. You never
Speaker:know who's struggling.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: That is true. Um, because like,
Speaker:a lot of things, like, I don't really share, obviously, On a
Speaker:show because I'm like, I don't need that kind of scrutiny
Speaker:or like just people just kind of keep asking me questions about things
Speaker:and I'm like, let me just be me for a moment.
Speaker:I'm gonna be my hermit. I'll throw out an episode
Speaker:that I pre recorded from a live show, throw it up on
Speaker:RSS feed. I got things to do.
Speaker:Um, but so having those moments,
Speaker:I understand. Because, you know, podcasting is a
Speaker:lot and you produce yours weekly.
Speaker:Um, I do mine weekly, but I do several episodes a week
Speaker:and it's.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: It'S a wait when you see.
Speaker:When you say several, several episodes a
Speaker:week, what do you mean?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, um, so I do a pre recorded show like this
Speaker:one and then obviously I do the chop up with
Speaker:edits and everything like that. So I throw those out for the
Speaker:socials. Then I have an AI episode
Speaker:that comes out after that does like. So
Speaker:it's like an AI summary episode like 20 minutes or so that
Speaker:comes out uh, before I release the next
Speaker:episode on the next Tuesday. But then I do also
Speaker:a live show every Thursday at 8pm Eastern.
Speaker:So because of that live show.
Speaker:Yeah, that's what a lot of people say. They was like,
Speaker:you really don't have kids, do you? I was like, no.
Speaker:But I, because of the feedback
Speaker:and people who actually listen to the
Speaker:show that find value. You and either
Speaker:the topics that I'm talking about, how can I help them?
Speaker:This is a reason why I do it. Um, in my live
Speaker:shows is where I'm actually testing out features,
Speaker:testing out things and streamlining my processes and
Speaker:seeing.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: How I like those live
Speaker:shows. I try to catch them as much as I can.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: I, um, appreciate it, you know, because it's one of the
Speaker:things that just like, you know, it's Thursday
Speaker:night, Friday Eve, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker:you know, let's end the week out strong, have a good
Speaker:Friday, um, and just kind of get people in
Speaker:positive mood before the, the weekend starts. And that's really
Speaker:my goal.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah, you should start bringing back the, the round
Speaker:tables again. I enjoy the round
Speaker:tables when you had different people
Speaker:on the uh, on ah, a conversation. You know,
Speaker:I feel like,
Speaker:uh, because I'm thinking about putting talk show with Pete to bed
Speaker:and trust me, I've gotten a lot of hate from
Speaker:that and PodFest everybody. Because
Speaker:one thing, um, PodFest was
Speaker:my last picking gig. I don't want to speak again.
Speaker:Not this year.
Speaker:And then, uh, I was talking about putting Talk show
Speaker:with P2B and not coming to Podfest next
Speaker:year. And people are like, paula, we are tired of this. What is going
Speaker:on with this Last. Last final. Final. Like
Speaker:this. We're not doing this.
Speaker:But I feel like if
Speaker:I ever bring it back or something,
Speaker:uh, it will be like round tables. I like having
Speaker:different perspective in one table and
Speaker:different objections and learning from people at the same
Speaker:time. But it also, it.
Speaker:What sucks about it is people
Speaker:don't get as much time because if you have.
Speaker:You're trying to put it under and now or something, but you also want
Speaker:everybody to have a pointer. Uh, it should be like
Speaker:either one question or two question. But. But however much you
Speaker:prepare, people don't understand about conversations.
Speaker:I. I normally have questions. Right.
Speaker:Just so that I can remember in case we.
Speaker:We sidetracked. Because you get sidetracked. And I
Speaker:have those must ask questions and those questions just
Speaker:in case there's still time. And
Speaker:then sometimes you just go
Speaker:into different segments and you're like, you know what? This is
Speaker:much more better than the questions I had. And
Speaker:then the next thing you know, time is gone and you really
Speaker:haven't hit in other spots. So imagine when you have
Speaker:the round table and everybody's kind of like,
Speaker:that's the only bad part I hate about roundtables, but
Speaker:I really love them.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. And I guess you could say, because it's
Speaker:a difference between being a guest and being a host.
Speaker:Because hosting them, um, I'm like, yo, I got like eight
Speaker:questions and I, um, maybe get through five.
Speaker:That's it. Because, uh, everything goes off the rails. And this.
Speaker:Which is good. But also it depends on how big the round table
Speaker:is. And sometimes an hour is not long
Speaker:enough. Yeah.
Speaker:So if you're gonna bring one, let me.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: One guest. And the conversation is so good. One hour can feel
Speaker:like 30 minutes. And then you have that. Guess where
Speaker:you have to pull everything where 30 minutes feel like
Speaker:an hour.
Speaker:I'm kind of putting my podcast, uh, uh, like
Speaker:I am gonna finish season nine. I'm not gonna promote it
Speaker:as much. I'm gonna dump all the lives
Speaker:episodes. I've already picked out yesterday.
Speaker:The lives that I did. I want to bring them to ISS feed.
Speaker:I want to end Talk show with you with 10 season.
Speaker:The plan was to record, uh, the.
Speaker:The season 10 a podfest, but boy, did I not
Speaker:even have time to record. I always tell myself I record
Speaker:live when I'm, um, conferences. But I'm always doing
Speaker:too much. Ah. I do way too
Speaker:much m. That I do not have a time
Speaker:to do anything. So I Wasn't able to. To do that.
Speaker:But, uh, maybe I might do the season 10
Speaker:in. In round tables, but like,
Speaker:instead of four or five people, like two, three.
Speaker:That way it goes. But also, I've realized I enjoy
Speaker:being a guest more than being a host.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yes, it's a lot. I, uh, trust me, I
Speaker:understand. I, uh, I get it.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Because unless I have a
Speaker:team, if I just show up and be a host and record
Speaker:and then the team does everything, I can be a
Speaker:host, but the host also does everything
Speaker:that
Speaker:I get how exhausting podcasting
Speaker:is. People think only it's so much fun, all
Speaker:these things. But the back end, the editing, the
Speaker:marketing, the promoting, the. The
Speaker:getting it out there on time,
Speaker:um, the design, the consistency,
Speaker:like, it is a lot. And, and that's just a person
Speaker:who's just doing one show a week. You.
Speaker:You have all this other as well.
Speaker:Like.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: I mean, I. What else I do. I mean,
Speaker:yeah, so I do help people on the side, um, who are
Speaker:beginner podcasters. Um, I help people with
Speaker:their finances. Uh, so, yeah, I
Speaker:build out the cycles and schedule everything. I mean, that's the only thing.
Speaker:If I didn't have a scheduler, a lot of this stuff wouldn't happen.
Speaker:Um, because I tried before.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: How do you use, like, what
Speaker:m. I use calendly.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, they don't have a referral code,
Speaker:so I'm like, hey, whatever, just get it. Um,
Speaker:and I highly recommend them.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Emailing them. You never know. You know, sometimes I tell people
Speaker:all it takes is a, uh, conversation. Just because
Speaker:you. You don't see doesn't mean they don't have it. Or if
Speaker:you might be the one who makes them bring it. Cause a
Speaker:conversation. I always tell people, shoot your
Speaker:shirt. Like knocking there. Just send an email. Hey, I'm
Speaker:using this a lot. By any chance do you guys have. You never
Speaker:know. Even if they say no, you're already on a nose, so
Speaker:what's there to lose?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, that is true.
Speaker:Um, because I didn't realize, like, you know, have you ever
Speaker:got people that say, like, yeah, I'm so afraid to ask you. I've been afraid to
Speaker:ask you to be on your show or something like that because,
Speaker:like, how as much as that you
Speaker:do. And it was like, oh, I didn't even know. Or
Speaker:have you ever had it happen?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Oh, no. I get too many people wanting to come talk with me.
Speaker:I think my, uh, the thing with me
Speaker:is because my podcast is called Talk
Speaker:with Peace. So, uh, everybody, when they hear the name,
Speaker:the first thing is I want to talk shit.
Speaker:Okay. But it's not really a, ah, kind of like just come in
Speaker:and talk kind of po. Uh, so I get
Speaker:that. And, and that's one thing
Speaker:I used to fear when I started podcasting. I was like, where will
Speaker:I get the guest from? And now I have too many
Speaker:guests, too many people. They're like,
Speaker:ah, people constantly want to be on my show.
Speaker:Because the structure of my show used to be,
Speaker:um, I would take a break like, like December, uh,
Speaker:to January I'll be on a break, right? Because
Speaker:Christmas I put up the last episode,
Speaker:um, December, closer to Christmas. And then I'll take that, the
Speaker:remainder like that time off in January because I
Speaker:always know there's spot first. I'm never
Speaker:coming back in January. So that episode started in February,
Speaker:but I start recording in January.
Speaker:So what, what I normally do in my break,
Speaker:I always take two months break. The one month
Speaker:is for me to just really relax and worry about
Speaker:podcasting and just do other things that I need
Speaker:to get together for my podcast. And then the second
Speaker:month I do, I uh, I do my
Speaker:recordings because in that one month of relaxing, I
Speaker:researched what theme I want for this season,
Speaker:what type of guest I want. I've already reached out to the
Speaker:guests and they have scheduled and all that.
Speaker:So then second month, because I, I, I record.
Speaker:I know every season I have 15 guests
Speaker:I record. So when I come back, the episodes are already
Speaker:ready. I do not have no recordings. All
Speaker:I have to do is every Wednesday make sure. Uh, but also
Speaker:I hate editing. So sometimes I know
Speaker:episode is supposed to come out on Wednesday morning. I'm
Speaker:um, editing like on Thursday late night,
Speaker:sitting up at 2 3am to make sure,
Speaker:sit at my 5am because I suck. So
Speaker:kudos to people who record and edit right after
Speaker:recording. I want to be like you guys when I grow up.
Speaker:But I me, as soon as I finish recording, I'm like, peace
Speaker:out until next time. Like, I forget about it.
Speaker:So, um, so when the seasons, when the
Speaker:episodes are going and then people are coming to me, I want to be on your
Speaker:podcast. I'm like, you gotta wait until the next season. But then
Speaker:the next season, if I have a theme that you don't
Speaker:fit in, I'm not gonna have you. So
Speaker:I, I had a problem of too many people wanting
Speaker:to come talk. And even now, like when
Speaker:I've said it's ending, a lot of people like,
Speaker:oh, no, I haven't talked with you yet. You can't end
Speaker:it. You can't end It. I'm like, well, on
Speaker:season 10, guys, I'm sorry. And I do have a lot of
Speaker:people who I want to bring home, but I'm like, I also don't want to kind
Speaker:of prolong. I want to end Talk shit with pin season
Speaker:10.
Speaker:And then maybe I have a plan
Speaker:to rebrand it. Like how decision
Speaker:decisions did from horrible decision to decision
Speaker:decision. But I'm gonna
Speaker:rebrand it very different. But that's uh, a whole other
Speaker:maybe in 27. We're in
Speaker:2025 next year. 2027,
Speaker:like, because next year I do not want to do
Speaker:podcasting at all for a while.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: M. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things
Speaker:about podcasting is like
Speaker:this. It's almost like I, I want
Speaker:to stop, but I don't want to stop. Mostly because
Speaker:it's like I enjoy meeting new people and
Speaker:some people haven't had a chance to really sit down. And
Speaker:this is really the longest setup we ever got
Speaker:to sit down because when we in, in real life
Speaker:events, there's so many people
Speaker:asking for either your attention or ask for my attention.
Speaker:And then we get turned away and it was like, like, all right, cool, I'll see you
Speaker:tomorrow. Like, that's how bad it is in these
Speaker:events. So, um, having those moments,
Speaker:I think it's, it's really good. And I appreciate you coming
Speaker:through today, uh, to kind of share that, um,
Speaker:because we have a lot of things to.
Speaker:That we've went over.
Speaker:Um, but one of the things I do, there's still two
Speaker:more segments of the show. So this third segment is talking
Speaker:about your features. So like,
Speaker:what skills or habits that you feel is going to take you to the next
Speaker:level?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Well, believe, um, it or not,
Speaker:my loud ass talking mouth.
Speaker:Because one, um, thing,
Speaker:uh, a lot of people keep telling me how
Speaker:funny I am, right? And I was like, you know, there's a difference
Speaker:between being funny with your friends
Speaker:because you're just talking and they just find it
Speaker:funny and than going on the stage and,
Speaker:ah, making people actually laugh. But for
Speaker:some reason, even though I tell them don't show up
Speaker:to mine, they always show up to my talk and literally
Speaker:they will enter. So even
Speaker:this, when I was doing my last talk at
Speaker:Podfest, right, um,
Speaker:the mike literally texted me
Speaker:9:20, right? And it was richly 9:15 at
Speaker:that time. And I was getting ready to get on the stage, I was like,
Speaker:yes, but no, like Iraq.
Speaker:And as I was getting on the stage, I
Speaker:see them walking with their humble,
Speaker:their breakfast because it was 9 o' clock in the
Speaker:morning and sit at the back. And I'm like, oh, God, why are
Speaker:you here? And then Joe was like, you
Speaker:know we don't go to talks, right? But for you, we have to come. I'm like, why are
Speaker:you wasting your five precious minutes? You know, you
Speaker:don't need to. They're like, no, Paula, I don't know why you're scared
Speaker:to speak, but you. You were actually good. I was like,
Speaker:like, cool. So then the. The comedy was on
Speaker:Saturday and like, we're coming to the comedy. I was like, please don't
Speaker:come. Please don't come. They're like, paula, this is your
Speaker:first time doing a comedy show. We are coming.
Speaker:Enjoy looking at me like, paula,
Speaker:I'mma laugh so loud because you're my girl
Speaker:whether you're funny or not. But if you're funny, as soon
Speaker:as you get off the stage, I'mma tell you, don't quit your
Speaker:job. Okay? Don't. Don't ever do
Speaker:this and don't ever put us to this again.
Speaker:I'm like, cool, just as long as you laugh while
Speaker:I'm on stage. So I. I
Speaker:was nervous as. Because where, uh, I
Speaker:did not practice at all. I wrote it up,
Speaker:but I did not practice. And I started
Speaker:practicing an hour before. And I was. Me and
Speaker:this girl, we were practicing together. And as I
Speaker:was timing myself because you have three minutes, I
Speaker:kept on ending at one minute because I was talking too
Speaker:fast. Like, I still had one minute. And I was like, like,
Speaker:damn, how is this gonna
Speaker:work? So I started getting like, man, it.
Speaker:I'm a cancer. I'm not gonna show up by m. My head. Um, I'm like, Joe and
Speaker:Mike are gonna kill me.
Speaker:And everybody was coming there. Oh, Paula is
Speaker:doing comedy. We are coming to see Paula. So
Speaker:people literally come. I'm like, I can't do
Speaker:this. And last year, because I was supposed to
Speaker:do it last year, but, um, I was
Speaker:late to pick a number because I was getting
Speaker:awarded and Mike hated me because we stayed
Speaker:through the end of it because Mike thought I was still doing
Speaker:it and was like, I was here for. I was waiting for you to go
Speaker:on stage. I'm like, oh, my bad. So I was like, I'm not going to do that
Speaker:again to them. So I got on the
Speaker:stage and
Speaker:I ended up pivoting because the person who got
Speaker:off the stage was Kim and was talking about
Speaker:Gangnam Styles. So I was like, oh, this is a nice
Speaker:entryway with me being Tanzania.
Speaker:I'm like, yeah, people Ask me, are you from Africa? No. Africa
Speaker:is a continent, not a country, people. And I do not know
Speaker:that friend of yours from West Africa, because I'm from East
Speaker:Africa. We don't all know each other just because we're
Speaker:African. So I started with that. So in my head, um, I'm
Speaker:thinking, oh, now that. Because you remember. Because I couldn't
Speaker:do it, for one, I was still left to. I mean, I'm like, since I
Speaker:added this, which wasn't part of it, I will. But,
Speaker:boy, wasn't I able to finish my set, because the three minutes
Speaker:you like, they rolled up first, but I was still able to.
Speaker:I watched and I closed it out, but I missed
Speaker:a few things. But when I got out, um, because we
Speaker:had comedians also who came. Because the night before there
Speaker:was an actual comedy show. So the
Speaker:comedians were there. Jacob was there, who even used
Speaker:me as part of his closing line. I was
Speaker:like, okay, so, um,
Speaker:everybody was like, yo, Paula, that was
Speaker:amazing. You were
Speaker:funny. Like, we really, like, enjoyed even just
Speaker:like, yeah,
Speaker:let's get you into comedy now. So,
Speaker:okay, um. Shout out to Steve.
Speaker:Shout out to Jeff Drosky was helping me.
Speaker:Even Steve was like, paula, now I can take you as a client.
Speaker:I'm like, now I can even pay you.
Speaker:I wanted to make sure first I know if I'm, um, I
Speaker:can actually do this before starting paying people. People too.
Speaker:But now, even if y' all are telling me I am good,
Speaker:even Jacob was like, you just gotta learn
Speaker:how to speak slower because you have an accent
Speaker:and people need, in order to understand, you kind
Speaker:of need to slow down. You speak very fast. I was
Speaker:like, ah, I get that. Maybe that's why the three.
Speaker:The three minutes when I was timing myself was going
Speaker:fast. So I guess my future is
Speaker:in comedy. And that's why I'm kind of really
Speaker:ready to. To. To. To let go of podcasting.
Speaker:Even though, as you say, you know, podcasting was.
Speaker:I, I, I love the people you meet and the
Speaker:conversations you have. You don't have these normal
Speaker:conversations you have on podcast, on, On.
Speaker:In real life, on street. Like, sometimes you get
Speaker:lucky.
Speaker:Yes. But when you're
Speaker:interviewing somebody or getting interviewed,
Speaker:you have a different type of connection
Speaker:conversation that just goes deeper than
Speaker:you. You expect. And I feel like comedy is kind of
Speaker:the same way because you get to connect with people
Speaker:even though you're talking. And literally, I was talking about dating
Speaker:apps and, like, I was talking about, you know,
Speaker:but you still connect to people because there
Speaker:is somebody out there who really Feels what you're
Speaker:going through, and. And it just connects. So
Speaker:anything that brings connection. I'm, um. I'm a sucker for
Speaker:connection. And I feel like that's the
Speaker:void I have. And that's why these days, the people
Speaker:who are in my life have to mean something. Like, I don't care if
Speaker:we've known each other for long if there's not that
Speaker:connection, if we are not healing each
Speaker:other's soul. You gotta go, baby. I'm
Speaker:sorry. So, um, anything.
Speaker:My future is consisted of comedy and,
Speaker:um, just connecting with
Speaker:people. As I said, I'm planning on leaving America this
Speaker:year, and, um, uh, I
Speaker:feel like my life is just about to
Speaker:start. Like, the future is unknown, and I kind
Speaker:of like it like that, but I know comedy is part of my future.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Nice. Well, I appreciate you
Speaker:taking time out, you know, to come through the show, to really
Speaker:share that, because sometimes we don't
Speaker:know what we don't know until we try. And that's why
Speaker:I always laugh when they say, oh, this person is the best in
Speaker:the world. I was like, did everybody get a ticket chance?
Speaker:Did everybody try? Like, no.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: By what circumstances?
Speaker:Questioning the norms when they say, oh, you can't do
Speaker:this. Who said I can't do this? Why can't I do this?
Speaker:Like, we need to question more, and if we
Speaker:stop worrying about what people say or anything,
Speaker:do the damn thing. And I feel like, um,
Speaker:a lot of people, even the. This goes out to any
Speaker:podcast out there was being frustrated or things like.
Speaker:Podcasting is supposed to be the.
Speaker:The get rich scam. You can get rich
Speaker:in, uh, with podcasting in different ways, which
Speaker:is connections, opportunities,
Speaker:the doors that it opens you into.
Speaker:Like, the relationship I have with the Mopad boys,
Speaker:it. It wouldn't have happened without,
Speaker:uh, podcasting. Like, those
Speaker:boys have become part of my family in ways that
Speaker:I can't even explain,
Speaker:like, legit when I'm sick.
Speaker:Like right now. They've constantly been bothering me,
Speaker:all three of them, in different levels. One is
Speaker:messaging on Instagram, one on Facebook, one on.
Speaker:On group chat. It's like, okay, I get it.
Speaker:Y' all love me, but leave me alone. But
Speaker:it's the people come into your life and the opportunities
Speaker:that bring. So podcasting itself might not bring
Speaker:you money, but it might also open doors. Like,
Speaker:people figure out the. They. They prefer being speakers, and
Speaker:some get paid to speak. And it all started because of
Speaker:podcasting. People like me, I'm getting into
Speaker:comedy. I wouldn't, uh, have if it wasn't for
Speaker:Podcasting. So there's all these ways
Speaker:than just one of being successful with your
Speaker:podcast. Can I say my podcast is successful.
Speaker:It not because it has brought me money, not because
Speaker:of the downloads I have, but all the
Speaker:opportunities. Yeah, I won an award at
Speaker:Potfest. I became a governor at
Speaker:portfolio to the extent where Chris literally tells me,
Speaker:paula, do whatever the you want as long as we don't get in trouble.
Speaker:Like this is the guy who runs the.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: That's awesome.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: You know, to trust me like that,
Speaker:uh, Mopad boy.
Speaker:At one point, the amount of credit they gave
Speaker:me for Mopada was
Speaker:myself, like, like, are you kidding me?
Speaker:Like this. So there's
Speaker:yesterday. The other day I got a message from somebody who
Speaker:I've known, a professor. And they're like, I'm extending my team. Would you,
Speaker:uh, are you interested for a talk? And I'm like,
Speaker:sure, let's talk. I got a job
Speaker:from a person who I met, a
Speaker:portfolio. So there's all
Speaker:these other, all these
Speaker:amazing things that, that my podcast has brought to
Speaker:me more than money could ever do. So.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Question. When you, you know that question of, uh,
Speaker:when you think about wealth, ask me that question.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, well, that's actually the first question.
Speaker:So. Ready? So you have
Speaker:anything before we dive into the final four?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah, I, I felt like I was going in that direction.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: It's okay.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I'm taking over the job.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: I know, right? Take over my whole show. Like, you don't even
Speaker:need to be. Just run the whole show, Paula. Just. You got
Speaker:this. Okay. Apparently. Uh, so
Speaker:anyway, you have anything before we dive into the final
Speaker:four questions of the show?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Um. Damn, that was
Speaker:loud. Excuse me.
Speaker:Um, go subscribe to talk show
Speaker:with me. Because I'm the best. Because
Speaker:I said I'm the best.
Speaker:Hey, no, I want to say, um,
Speaker:um, you know, earlier you talked about how
Speaker:you kind of met me, so I wanna, I wanna give you your
Speaker:pros as well. Um, uh, I've seen you
Speaker:do your thing, you know, um,
Speaker:I've watched you at
Speaker:a podcast movement. I've watched you at,
Speaker:um, Afros. I've watched you at, um,
Speaker:think on them. We were everywhere last year.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Last year was a lot. It was a lot.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I don't even know how we did that.
Speaker:Um, what I can say is
Speaker:don't let nobody dim your
Speaker:light because in this industry, um,
Speaker:the so called gurus have a way of
Speaker:making people seem less
Speaker:because of their so called
Speaker:glowness. But, um,
Speaker:you, me, by watching you, I
Speaker:admire your work ethic. How you move, how you
Speaker:run your podcast, and how you stand up
Speaker:for your. So keep doing your. I am, um,
Speaker:proud of you. And, um, I
Speaker:mean, I wouldn't be jumping into your
Speaker:lives every now and then if I really didn't. Like, I'm
Speaker:sorry, I don't, I don't listen even to podcasts. Let me tell
Speaker:you something. Like, I don't. I, I, I,
Speaker:I'm a, I am a podcaster who
Speaker:hates listening to podcasts. Like,
Speaker:and that's why once a month, I'll do a post on, on.
Speaker:On Facebook and be like, drop your favorite
Speaker:episode, let me go listen to it, and leave you a review.
Speaker:Because otherwise, baby,
Speaker:unless. Unless it is,
Speaker:um,
Speaker:the blessed word, shout out to Dominic and
Speaker:Kendra, who do amazing job with that. Ah, that
Speaker:became appeal because it was kind of like a
Speaker:therapy podcast for me. And lately
Speaker:also Jenna's, uh, episode,
Speaker:uh, podcast, Big Lush Energy. I just love how
Speaker:she talks and shares.
Speaker:Ah, unraw truth. I still
Speaker:miss certain episodes, but, um,
Speaker:apart from really those, I, I don't be
Speaker:even. No offense. Mopad will tell you I don't listen to
Speaker:their Friday night karaoke, but when they are live on
Speaker:Facebook, I will jump and watch and support and
Speaker:I will share. And then my bo And I love
Speaker:them. Sometimes they'll even be like, well, have you listened to this
Speaker:episode? I'm like, no. Why go listen to it? I'm like, why
Speaker:go listen? They'll have my glasses with my. I'm
Speaker:m. Like, oh, my God, thank you so much. I
Speaker:should have listened to you before y' all tell me.
Speaker:But, um, I suck at that. But I find
Speaker:ways to still support in the ways I know,
Speaker:and that's why I tell people. Even, Even if you
Speaker:don't listen to podcasts, there's different ways you can support your, Your,
Speaker:your podcasters. You can share it. Just because you
Speaker:don't listen to it doesn't mean the people in your circle
Speaker:won't listen to it. You can like it.
Speaker:You can go review it, at least. I try to listen at
Speaker:least one episode of somebody and go live a review. That's all it
Speaker:takes. Like, you know, so it's not always
Speaker:about money or constantly listening. It's all
Speaker:these other ways. So I just want to tell you, keep doing
Speaker:your thing. I'm proud of you. And, you know, you.
Speaker:You're the. Damn, you're the best.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Appreciate you, papa. I, um, mean,
Speaker:you've. Yes, you have really
Speaker:lit a fire up under me on, like, you know, just kind of be
Speaker:excited about what you do
Speaker:versus, like, yes, I get to do this, but
Speaker:you actually help me understand
Speaker:on why I do this and to
Speaker:actually get excited about it again. Um, because,
Speaker:you know, this does drain on you a bit. You know,
Speaker:sometimes you're like, man, if you start looking at the analytics, it will kill
Speaker:your joy. Um, but I'm
Speaker:excited about every episode that I put out. So it's like, this
Speaker:is it.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Um, comparison is a thief. Like, when
Speaker:you comp. Sometimes I, I used to do it and I
Speaker:stopped. I'd look like, oh, you've only been
Speaker:podcasting for a year and you have 10k. And I've been podcasting
Speaker:for four years and I'm only on this. So when you
Speaker:think about that, it does, does kill you
Speaker:and might make you
Speaker:question, um, yourself. But then one thing I
Speaker:learned also is to be like,
Speaker:even if you have 50
Speaker:downloads on an episode, that's 50,
Speaker:people are listening. Even if you have one, that's one person
Speaker:who took time out to listen.
Speaker:And, um, and that's why it's always good to
Speaker:remember your why. Like, when you know why
Speaker:you're doing it. The numbers shouldn't matter. None of
Speaker:that should matter. Keep following your why
Speaker:and eventually it will come. I am a firm
Speaker:believer in as long as you keep
Speaker:making yourself great, like you can compare
Speaker:to others. If you just want to be great like people
Speaker:who you admire and you're like, I want to be as good
Speaker:as them and just to learn
Speaker:to get yourself better, that's fine. But if you're comparing
Speaker:why they're doing it and this, no, because
Speaker:you end up losing yourself because you're constantly be
Speaker:copying them instead of learning from them.
Speaker:There's a difference between copying somebody and
Speaker:then failing or learning from them. Just,
Speaker:uh, uh, uh. Because just because that worked for them
Speaker:doesn't mean it's going to work for your podcast. But you can
Speaker:learn to implement how it can work for your
Speaker:podcast and that's where we need to be. And I always
Speaker:remember my why. So most of the
Speaker:time when I really want to give up. And I've had so many times where
Speaker:I've wanted to give up on, um, podcasting and everything.
Speaker:And then I'll drive get that one review
Speaker:or one inbox. Thank you for, for this. You
Speaker:really helped me this thank you for. And I remember this
Speaker:is the reason I'm doing it. But also my
Speaker:podcast has been also therapeutic for me. The
Speaker:conversations I've had have helped me heal,
Speaker:have helped me learn to be a better me or
Speaker:realize My growth.
Speaker:Because sometimes I'll be listening to somebody. I'm like, damn,
Speaker:I would have hanged up on you right now. But because
Speaker:I'm a better me right now, I'm a listen, and
Speaker:I just agree to disagree. Because it's okay to
Speaker:agree to disagree. You don't all have to be on the same page
Speaker:because just because it worked for them and you don't believe it
Speaker:doesn't mean it doesn't work.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: So I think sometimes we get into that
Speaker:mindset, and it's all about changing your mindset, which I'm,
Speaker:um, constantly learning. It's not an easy
Speaker:thing, because
Speaker:once you're like that, trust me, sometimes I really want to go off.
Speaker:And I'm like, paula, uh, if you go off,
Speaker:you're going five times behind of the growth
Speaker:of you've been
Speaker:doing. Is it better? And sometimes when I
Speaker:go off, that means I'm disrupting my peace. I'm
Speaker:very much these days into being at peace
Speaker:and creating a peaceful space for me. So I
Speaker:just be blind to that. And. And that's okay.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah.
Speaker:All right, so ready for the final four?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah, baby.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: All righty. All righty. Number one,
Speaker:what does wealth mean to you?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Ah. So to me, wealth means peace.
Speaker:Believe it or not, um,
Speaker:I. I don't want to be rich, but I do
Speaker:want to be, uh, financial.
Speaker:What's the word? Financial.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Independent.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah. I want to be able to
Speaker:live a simple life. I'm not a
Speaker:person who likes designer or anything, but I love traveling
Speaker:and experiencing new things and enjoying the world
Speaker:and eating good food and drinking good
Speaker:alcohol and being in good restaurants. That's my thing.
Speaker:Like, uh, you give me 10,000 to go buy,
Speaker:uh, a Louis Vuitton bag, I'm, um, gonna go
Speaker:spend it in different restaurants and eat good food.
Speaker:Like my. My m. Uber bills. My uber bill
Speaker:knows every time I get a paycheck, I have to order
Speaker:myself a good ass meal from that Uber, and then the
Speaker:rest goes everywhere else. So, um,
Speaker:for me, wealth is peace. I feel like when you have peace,
Speaker:you have wealth because people
Speaker:assume that you can be re.
Speaker:Wealth is being so rich. But then if you don't
Speaker:have peace, what's the point?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: I like that.
Speaker:All right, number two, what was your worst money
Speaker:mistake?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Oh, baby, how many times? There's
Speaker:no one. We write a whole book
Speaker:of follows money.
Speaker:But I feel like the biggest one should be, um,
Speaker:when I first came to America and I didn't know, uh, about
Speaker:credit score and all these credit cards decided
Speaker:to give me credit Cards. And, uh,
Speaker:I had like four or five with different. And
Speaker:in the beginning, I was doing good. You know, I was new, I was
Speaker:decorating, I was traveling. And then eventually
Speaker:I got lazy into paying back that, you know,
Speaker:and then they just piled up. And then now you
Speaker:learn all your credit score goes down or now you can't get anything
Speaker:on credit. And so I think that was.
Speaker:And ever since then, I have not had a credit
Speaker:card. And I've lived in this. This space where
Speaker:if I can't afford it by cash with my
Speaker:debit, I can't afford it. We will
Speaker:work hard and find it. Like, I literally
Speaker:got a credit card last
Speaker:week. I don't know why they sent it to me.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Did you apply for it? I mean.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I don't know. Fidelity. Fidelity,
Speaker:please answer me. Why
Speaker:investment? Why did y' all send. And especially
Speaker:since I, uh, I cashed out my
Speaker:401k and then they sent me a credit card. So I don't know
Speaker:what was going on. Which I
Speaker:also not sure if I did the right thing cashing out my
Speaker:401k. But I also don't really give a.
Speaker:Right now with my financial situation. Everything
Speaker:is just like. But, um, that was
Speaker:probably the biggest mistake. And I thought.
Speaker:And which started pissing me off with
Speaker:my friends because they would make plans on
Speaker:expensive places or anything, like, you know,
Speaker:and I would say, I'm not going. They'll be like, why put it in your credit
Speaker:card? I'm like, that's the point. I don't have a credit card. And I. Even
Speaker:if I did, I'm not putting on something on my credit card for your
Speaker:amusement. So. No. And. And
Speaker:I've stood by that. Even with this credit card,
Speaker:I'm very strategic with, um,
Speaker:has come in time where, as I said, I'm getting ready to
Speaker:leave and stuff up with, uh, moving
Speaker:or whatever. But I. Yeah,
Speaker:credit cards.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, number three,
Speaker:is there a book that inspired your journey or
Speaker:changed your perspective?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Oh, my God, yes. And I can't find that book.
Speaker:Pope Francis, what's the name of that book?
Speaker:Maybe I should go find the email that I
Speaker:responded to. Okay, let's go to the
Speaker:last one and then I'll come back to this.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: All right, let me talk about
Speaker:some edits
Speaker:I got you, though.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: You got this?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. Yeah. All right, are you ready for number
Speaker:four then?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yes.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, number four,
Speaker:what is your favorite dish to make.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Any type of. Type of pasta.
Speaker:Like, I am a pasta. Ah,
Speaker:freak. Like, I love pasta.
Speaker:Pasta and potatoes are my go to food.
Speaker:My Soul food. But um,
Speaker:I like playing because pasta you can play
Speaker:around with different like you know,
Speaker:Alfredo or
Speaker:uh, just add up and make
Speaker:it something, you know, like
Speaker:whichever spaghetti. And it doesn't just necessarily have to be
Speaker:pasta. Like it can be those elbows, whatever,
Speaker:like the spaghetti corner, the entire
Speaker:it. I just love playing around with it and
Speaker:especially with seafood. So I create
Speaker:my own recipes. Sometimes I look online and
Speaker:see, oh, this. But I'm a tiny this way.
Speaker:So anything pasta.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, sounds good.
Speaker:Alrighty. Well, you know, as we come
Speaker:through the very last question of the show,
Speaker:which is where could people find out more about
Speaker:you?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: All right, so you can find me
Speaker:anywhere and everywhere at Talk Shit
Speaker:with P. Um, I'm very active
Speaker:on Instagram.
Speaker:I, um, will respond to Instagram DM than an email.
Speaker:But also in the few months,
Speaker:uh, I, uh, I really do want to disappear out of
Speaker:social media. So,
Speaker:uh, I might be a little bit quiet
Speaker:in the coming few months on social media, but you can
Speaker:find me anywhere at Talk Shippy.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.
Speaker:I still tell you looking for the book.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Oh, give me one second.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: No, no, no, you can.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: You know that we are done. Oh my God.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Well, I mean once you get that, I just gotta do my closeout stuff
Speaker:and then if you want I can just do a close out right now.
Speaker:And then when you find.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Because you can just edit this.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I'm gonna mute myself.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: That way I find.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: All right, well,
Speaker:hopefully you got something out of this particular episode. We had an
Speaker:awesome opportunity to talk. Talk with Paula,
Speaker:um, talk shit with P. Definitely check
Speaker:out her podcast. And she has so many great
Speaker:value out of it. Now if you're one of the people
Speaker:who are actually dealing with ah,
Speaker:depression and you feel as though, uh, this is
Speaker:something that you might just need some help, uh, some
Speaker:immediate help, you can just dial 988-
Speaker:um- so that you can go ahead on and get that help today.
Speaker:But one of the things I just want to let you know, like, hey,
Speaker:if you ever need somebody to talk to or if
Speaker:you, if there's a topic that you want me to kind of go through,
Speaker:just go ahead on and shoot me a DM at
Speaker:about that wallet on
Speaker:Instagram. That's where I'm most active. Uh,
Speaker:or even just respond to one of the episodes on,
Speaker:or actually respond to this episode in the show notes, let me
Speaker:know because one of the things that I am curious about is like,
Speaker:how can we help you build, build a better relationship with
Speaker:yourself and also with your money.
Speaker:So with that everybody, I wish Y' all the best. We out.
Speaker:Peace.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: All right. Ask me that question about the book again. I found it.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Okay. Ah, well, make sure I got
Speaker:my. Because, you know, I got my little. My
Speaker:little notes.
Speaker:Okay. Number, um,
Speaker:three. Is there a book that inspired
Speaker:your journey or change your perspective?
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yes, that will be, um, the Name of
Speaker:God is Mercy by Pope Francis. That
Speaker:was a very good read. It stays with me
Speaker:until today. And I might just order another. The.
Speaker:The. The book. The copy right now on Amazon because I
Speaker:might need to read it again.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, it'll be probably good for your journey, I guess.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: It is indeed.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. All right.
Speaker:For my edits. But
Speaker:I know what to edit.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: All right.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Um, cool.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Oh, wow. We spoke for one and a half hour.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, dude. I know it's been recording that long,
Speaker:but, um, I'm sure we only. Yeah, it's been about that
Speaker:long. All right,
Speaker:it's back.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: It's been recording that wrong, but that's how long we've
Speaker:been talking.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, I mean, I'mma keep it. I'mma try to keep it
Speaker:as raw as possible, obviously at the end, move
Speaker:some things around. But, um, my
Speaker:audience do enjoy the long episodes because they do have
Speaker:long drives where they listen to the show when they going on
Speaker:flights and stuff like that. So. But like I said, I
Speaker:do have an AI episode that would do a summary of all of
Speaker:this for like 10 minutes.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: So the air comes out and this
Speaker:one comes out. And I will make sure to
Speaker:shade promote it. Is there anything you need from my end?
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Um, no. If you haven't already subscribed to the
Speaker:show on, uh, Spotify, like, do you listen to
Speaker:Spotify? Uh, Apple.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: What if I up. Even though I have.
Speaker:I mean, I just enjoying Spotify, but I normally
Speaker:go live reviews on Apple, but. Yeah, okay.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, if you can just leave a review that'll be helpful for me.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: I. Every time I. I always
Speaker:wait until the episode comes out and then I listen to
Speaker:it and then I write a review.
Speaker:Because whenever I guess I write a review as
Speaker:being a guest, but also as you
Speaker:being the host.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Ah, I like that. Okay, I need to go back to some of mine that
Speaker:I've been. I
Speaker:like that. Um, so yeah, if you ever need
Speaker:me to. Well, that's right. You're already locked in and you're probably
Speaker:not doing any more anytime soon. You're more than welcome to
Speaker:come on a live panel.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah, when I figure out what I'm
Speaker:doing. Season 10. Because these episodes,
Speaker:um, I'm putting them up from. They're gonna start
Speaker:going out from next week, and by March they'll
Speaker:be done. So I feel like season 10,
Speaker:because I want to end it this year. So I feel like I
Speaker:will work on
Speaker:that and
Speaker:start it maybe around,
Speaker:uh. Because the project I'm working on right now.
Speaker:Let me see. Let me.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: You gotta remove the filter. That's all.
Speaker:>> Paula Sima: Yeah. Let me remove my background.
Speaker:>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, let me stop the recording. Hold on.
Speaker:That recording.
